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	<title>Comments on: The Original Champions of Design</title>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-26120</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I like the original better. I see what they were getting at, especially the concept of the tipped shape at the bottom, which actually pays more homage to the 10-20s logo, but those bangs? You\&#039;ve got to be kidding me! They\&#039;ve already made the girls look more youthful by slimming them down.

As for the text, I don\&#039;t personally like it but it does not add any complication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I like the original better. I see what they were getting at, especially the concept of the tipped shape at the bottom, which actually pays more homage to the 10-20s logo, but those bangs? You\&#8217;ve got to be kidding me! They\&#8217;ve already made the girls look more youthful by slimming them down.</p>
<p>As for the text, I don\&#8217;t personally like it but it does not add any complication.</p>
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		<title>By: teejaystudios</title>
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		<dc:creator>teejaystudios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Most of the previous comments are spot on. The first design is much much better. and more modern if that makes much sense? The second ones look uneven and awkward. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Most of the previous comments are spot on. The first design is much much better. and more modern if that makes much sense? The second ones look uneven and awkward. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Basquait</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25768</link>
		<dc:creator>Basquait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The changes are not an improvement. They add unnecessary complexity to the logo. It is fiddling for fiddlings sake. But it would be hard to ask a paying client to pay the fee when the better advice would have been to request the logo remained as is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The changes are not an improvement. They add unnecessary complexity to the logo. It is fiddling for fiddlings sake. But it would be hard to ask a paying client to pay the fee when the better advice would have been to request the logo remained as is.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25764</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first two faces in the new version look closer to each other than to the third one. The balance is all off (look at chin distances/forehead distances/lip distances. The original is much better balanced as a trio. It looks like a problem brought about by the tightening of the shamrock curves, but it makes the whole thing look a bit awkward to me. 

Other than that execution I don&#039;t mind the thing, but I would tend to agree it&#039;s fiddling for fiddling&#039;s sake. Could&#039;ve been better off applying the old logo in the more contemporary collateral styles. (Saks 5th ave anyone?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first two faces in the new version look closer to each other than to the third one. The balance is all off (look at chin distances/forehead distances/lip distances. The original is much better balanced as a trio. It looks like a problem brought about by the tightening of the shamrock curves, but it makes the whole thing look a bit awkward to me. </p>
<p>Other than that execution I don&#8217;t mind the thing, but I would tend to agree it&#8217;s fiddling for fiddling&#8217;s sake. Could&#8217;ve been better off applying the old logo in the more contemporary collateral styles. (Saks 5th ave anyone?)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25761</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with most of the comments already on here... the brand development is a nice progression (patterns, stationery, colour palette etc) but the amends to the icon feel a little unnecessary.

I think Mat Dolphin sums it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with most of the comments already on here&#8230; the brand development is a nice progression (patterns, stationery, colour palette etc) but the amends to the icon feel a little unnecessary.</p>
<p>I think Mat Dolphin sums it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranald Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranald Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with David here, its been modified in an attempt to update it but to me it feels a cheaper version of the original. I can&#039;t look at the two without seeing how obviously superior the original is. As a drawing it is just so much more elegant and timeless... this new version looks far too much like a shamrock to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with David here, its been modified in an attempt to update it but to me it feels a cheaper version of the original. I can&#8217;t look at the two without seeing how obviously superior the original is. As a drawing it is just so much more elegant and timeless&#8230; this new version looks far too much like a shamrock to me.</p>
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		<title>By: karl escritt</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25753</link>
		<dc:creator>karl escritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really nice work here the brand looks more up to date with the redesign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really nice work here the brand looks more up to date with the redesign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Dolphin</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25749</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat Dolphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the brief requiring OCD to make the mark more contemporary, but take the new iD, simplify it, and you&#039;re left with the old. That for me doesn&#039;t signify an improvement that was necessary. 

This for me demonstrates Saul Bass original ability. Hats off to the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the brief requiring OCD to make the mark more contemporary, but take the new iD, simplify it, and you&#8217;re left with the old. That for me doesn&#8217;t signify an improvement that was necessary. </p>
<p>This for me demonstrates Saul Bass original ability. Hats off to the man.</p>
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		<title>By: David Boni</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Boni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t say, if I was Saul Bass or Paul Rand (only not-dead), I’d prefer one of my original works to get little bits added on to it versus a completely different work replacing it (as was the case with UPS) despite how agonizingly contemporary and ill-suited the new logo might be. I liken the adding of bits to a child with a crayon drawing on a timeless photograph.

I think the bangs are fooling people into thinking “youthful”—they are way too contemporary in my eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t say, if I was Saul Bass or Paul Rand (only not-dead), I’d prefer one of my original works to get little bits added on to it versus a completely different work replacing it (as was the case with UPS) despite how agonizingly contemporary and ill-suited the new logo might be. I liken the adding of bits to a child with a crayon drawing on a timeless photograph.</p>
<p>I think the bangs are fooling people into thinking “youthful”—they are way too contemporary in my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.formfiftyfive.com/2010/07/the-original-champions-of-design/#comment-25743</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, thanks for the post, well put. 

I agree with many of the points you make, what I admire is OCD&#039;s respectful tip of the hat to Saul Bass by choosing to &#039;refine&#039; the mark, and not overhaul it completely. (Such as the rebranding of Paul Rand&#039;s classic UPS logo)

I agree the bangs does make it slightly imbalanced and adds a further layer of complication, however I do think that the bangs do help to make the three girls look more youthful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, thanks for the post, well put. </p>
<p>I agree with many of the points you make, what I admire is OCD&#8217;s respectful tip of the hat to Saul Bass by choosing to &#8216;refine&#8217; the mark, and not overhaul it completely. (Such as the rebranding of Paul Rand&#8217;s classic UPS logo)</p>
<p>I agree the bangs does make it slightly imbalanced and adds a further layer of complication, however I do think that the bangs do help to make the three girls look more youthful.</p>
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